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si ne predstavljam. ti je isto tko kot so v barih prepovedali kajenje. sej mi pase da vec ne smrdim po cikih, samo po drugi strani ne hodim vec v bare ampak v prostore drustva ljubiteljev alkohola. ni vec isto. boks brez polnega kontakta pa ni vec boks. je nekaj drugega.

agizzz je napisal:

Tu je tema če se mene upraša. Ku da bi dal nova pravila da se lahko Formula 1 pelje največ 150 km na uro, čeprau je zmogljivost dost večja.
Brez veze!!

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kunta je napisal:

formula 150 km

dobra

Pole bi bil Jos Verstapen svetovni prvak alpa bi ferrari sleparu in bi nihov avto šel 164

@Savater oprosti za off  topic

Zadnjič urejal mirancar (19.06.2008 15:51:07)

Tole je iz revije BOXING NEWS AIBA: prejšnjega leta:
zdej u juniju v Luzani (piši kao što melješ) pa dokončen sklep o začetku aktiviranja te discipline:



Tekst:

The executive of big companies, the
liberal professional and the general
public are searching more and more
for ways to relieve tension, whilst improving
their general health, and boxing
is one of the most common strategies
utilized.
A public minority has the idea that
boxing is a ‘violent’ sport, however,
this is starting to change through Olympic
boxing, thanks to its extensive
form of protection.
It is well-known that the preoccupation
of people with high degrees of
competitiveness and professional
responsibility would like to practise
boxing, without suffering physical
damage to their esthetic, as well as
their general, well-being.
It is wise to point out that the age
group that has looked for this option
is getting higher by the day, between
35-70 years. Older people practising
this sport do exist, with the advent of
the medical release.
These days, women have also been
submitted to the same conditions of
work and stress; and consequently
have found pleasure in the practise of
boxing.
From the orthopedics stand-point, it
is important to have a good warm-up,
around 15 to 20 minutes, with a prolonged
session, around 20 to 30 minutes,
for the stretching and flexibility
exercises, taking into consideration
that a greater stiffness in the tendons
and muscles exists with people of a
more advanced age, especially at the
beginning of the session. In this initial
stage it is important to rehearse the
moves that relate to the sport, especially
for those who have never practised
boxing; such as swirls, punches
and torso movements, etc.
These movements gradually gain in
intensity, speed and strength, always
considering the age and technical level
of each practitioner.

This practice must be done with
gloves, which for this style should
be bigger, from 15 to 17 ounces, and
softer than the norm and are already
available on the market.
The head protector, softer and offering
more protection, will be used in
any activity that involves contact with
an opponent.
The shoes, preferably, will be specific
to boxing, however the use of a sneaker
with good shock absorption is also
satisfactory.
From the physiological standpoint,
those interested in teaching these
classes should consider the following
factors: Warm-up boxing exercises
should be the priority with particular
focus on the muscle group, therefore
the first phase should have emphasis
on the muscular strength and resistance
with exercises that are complimentary
to boxing.
The level of conditioning and physical
capabilities of the student should be
considered at the start of the activity.
The class should be 30 to 45 minutes
for beginners and from 45 to 60 minutes
for advanced students, taking
into consideration it is a class geared
for any age group and level of training,
with no set age group, always under
surveillance and observation of a
physical education professional.
The objectives of this class are to: alleviate
stress, increase the amount of
calories burnt, change physical composition,
increase strength and muscular
mass, socialize and provide an
outlet for the natural competitiveness
of people.
As a competitive format, according to
age, it is suggested:
l Under 35 years - Four rounds of
two minutes with one minute of
rest.
l 35 to 45 years - Four rounds of
one minute 30 seconds with one
minute of rest.
l 45 to 50 years - Four rounds of
one minute with one minute 30
seconds of rest.
l 50 to 60 years - Three rounds of
one minute with one minute 30
seconds of rest.
l 60 to 70 years - Three rounds of
one minute with two minutes of
rest.
l Above 70 years - Three rounds
of 45 seconds with two minutes of
rest.
Depending on the degree of activity
and training time there are exceptions
in which athletes of a higher
age group can practice in a lower age
group. There are four basic categories
matching weight and degree of training,
with the age group:
Light - below 60 kg.
Medium - from 61 to 75 kg.
Medium Heavy - from 76 to 85 kg.
Heavy - above 86 kg.
Consideration must be taken of the
number of participants that exist. It is
worthwhile mentioning that pre-existent
pathological conditions should be
taken into account, without the need
to forbid the practice if it is supervised
by a sport doctor or specialist.
However, due to this, a physical and
medical evaluation has to be made.

Zadnjič urejal savater (20.06.2008 15:07:53)

tega upam da veste nisem objavu zato ker bi sam oboževal lahki kontakt.....ampak
....ker vas hočem opozorit, kje se planira razvoj borilstva naprej za naslednja leta:
prav skozi boks v Evropi.
Pugilizm bo po mojem mnenju začel zamanjevati aziatske ročne tehnike saj ga bodo bolj populčarizirali mediji.
Šlo bo za tako imenovane spretnostne igre - densam k metulj, pičm k čebela (no čebela pol umre...če bi ALI to vedel...hmmmm)
in tekmovanja bodo zelo spktekularna z ogromno akcije , eskivažami, izmiki, gibanjem, lepo tehniko, povezavami.....seveda pa ne bo KO....oz kontakt bo res samo z dotikom, čelade pa of kors ....ne bo......
kar je tudi namen promocije boksa v naslednjih letih.
Med elito najbolj spretnih rokašev se bomo hodili učiti in uriti spretnosti ter se preizkušati vsi ki temeljimo na boksarski ročni tehniki (torej bratje po rokah   )
in taka boksarska zveza nas bo tudi združevala ...omogočala bolj kvaliteten rezultat....celo olimpijski nekaj časa ....in pa tamali - Youth olympic games bodo to delali namesto polnokontaktnega boksa.
Torej boks bo kar naenkrat postal primeren za vse generacije - še posebej za tisto populacijo , ki jo bo v Evropi in razvitem svetu kmalu največ - upokojence.

savater je napisal:

tega upam da veste nisem objavu zato ker bi sam oboževal lahki kontakt.....ampak
....ker vas hočem opozorit, kje se planira razvoj borilstva naprej za naslednja leta:
prav skozi boks v Evropi.
Pugilizm bo po mojem mnenju začel zamanjevati aziatske ročne tehnike saj ga bodo bolj populčarizirali mediji.
Šlo bo za tako imenovane spretnostne igre - densam k metulj, pičm k čebela (no čebela pol umre...če bi ALI to vedel...hmmmm)
in tekmovanja bodo zelo spktekularna z ogromno akcije , eskivažami, izmiki, gibanjem, lepo tehniko, povezavami.....seveda pa ne bo KO....oz kontakt bo res samo z dotikom, čelade pa of kors ....ne bo......
kar je tudi namen promocije boksa v naslednjih letih.
Med elito najbolj spretnih rokašev se bomo hodili učiti in uriti spretnosti ter se preizkušati vsi ki temeljimo na boksarski ročni tehniki (torej bratje po rokah   )
in taka boksarska zveza nas bo tudi združevala ...omogočala bolj kvaliteten rezultat....celo olimpijski nekaj časa ....in pa tamali - Youth olympic games bodo to delali namesto polnokontaktnega boksa.
Torej boks bo kar naenkrat postal primeren za vse generacije - še posebej za tisto populacijo , ki jo bo v Evropi in razvitem svetu kmalu največ - upokojence.

Mal kontradiktorno pišeš, upokojenci oz. starejši se (po mojem mnenju) bolj posvečajo tradicionalnim borilnim veščinam in še to 'trenirajo' le en del njih (npr. forme pri tae-kwon-doju). Borba, kjer je pomembna kondicija, hitrost, hitri refleksi (po tvoje spretnostna igra aka densam k metulj, pičm k čebela) po mojem ne bo obrodila sadov pri upokojencih.

Drugace pa itak podpiram razvijanje katerekoli BV. Sem istega mnenja, da za mladiče do neke primerne starosti ni ravno pametno na full delat.

Zadnjič urejal don matic (21.06.2008 14:33:43)